Curse

Alfrond · Feb 16, 2007, 02:21 AM // 02:21

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Originally Posted by wetsparks

If you have unlocked everything on your account, how about having a spot in storage for Balthazar faction. It would only show up after everything on your account has been unlocked and you can insert Balthazar faction to be used when the next chapter comes out. Deposit the faction in 5,000 faction increments for use at a later date.

Thats a unique idea, but several pvp titles (like gladiator I think) have an effect where you can carry more faction. However, your suggestion is one to consider.

unmatchedfury · Feb 16, 2007, 02:52 AM // 02:52

I agree totatlly with the whole balth faction thing. However there needs to be a perminant sink for balth faction. Some thing thats usable only once. IF we simply make new unlackables we'll unlock them and then be on about how to use faction again. I say that we introduce things like firewater and wahtnot that can be used in PvP.

Things like one time use dye,one time use armor and things like that should be avaiable for faction sinks. The ability to donate faction into a title would be excellent.

Loviatar · Feb 16, 2007, 03:17 AM // 03:17

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Originally Posted by Alfrond

Maybe a big old beer mug for a maxed Drunkard title

i actually sent that in to them months ago.

a glowing mug with a foam head on it for drunkard

a big glowing mug with foam spilling onto you for ale hound

DeathShadowX · Feb 16, 2007, 03:37 AM // 03:37

I didn't read most of this thread but i like the idea.

If it hasn't been mentioned before i think balt faction should be used to unlock EXTRA MASKS (LIKE HOLIDAY HEADGEAR)

Im talking like a npc whom you transfer faction to , and once you give him enough say...
500k, 1kk,2kk,5kk
he will unlock a special mask for your account which can be reproduced across the characters via the festival hat npc.

some ideas:
Baltazar helmet, grenth hood, pope hat (for kicks), sombrero, baseball cap, and things of this variety.

Also, account wide minipets perhaps aswell, that way your efforts can reward in PvE for duality players.

Again, this would have to be a faction transfer to a certain npc, at high end amounts of 1-10 million

Note that, in my vision(the previous mentioned segment):

The reward npc does not give you the mask/pet based on the faction earned on the account, but rather the amount you have TRANSFERRED to him. Ideally, it would work much like the kurzick/luxon faction transfer, as well as save us from elitist pigs whom already have 10kk+ faction, and spam HA saying, NEED PLAYERS WITH GOOD EXPERIENCE, MUST SHOW BALTAZAR HAT. (or soemthing along those lines)

Forgive my spelling, its late.

Kereton Arindale · Feb 16, 2007, 03:39 AM // 03:39

Well, I'm not much of a PvPer, but I have a couple ideas.

With the opening of the Zaishen Arenas and the explorable PVP continent, I thought A-net was on the right track. However, the Zaishen Arenas aren't used much (the Zaishen Elite is almost always empty when I play). Also, from what I've read, we need something to spend faction on. The casual player won't have everything unlocked, but maybe something to appeal to the people that live and breathe Guild Wars?

I agree a couple new emotes would be cool...but they would just be spammed in the Great Temple of Balthazar. Not really much of a positive there.

Armor: I agree on getting the 15k sets (at a huge cost), but Fissure and other types of extremely rare armor should stick to PvE. It'll give people something to spend their faction on. I don't care if it's the same thing as what you can craft by yourself, it'll get others to stop whining for a little bit

A new PVP Arena: If somebody mentioned this, sorry. There should be some trader that distributes a key item..."Piece of Forgotten Map" or whatever...I just made that up off the top of my head. Each piece could cost 10,000 Balthazar faction to unlock, but you need one hundred of them to talk to another NPC who will assemble the map and transport you to a new PVP arena. In this PVP arena, you can be sure people here WANT to play and have great builds, because they worked so hard to get all of the faction. It's like an elite Random Arena. The arena could be called "Balthazar's Chosen" or something. It'll have similar objectives to random arenas, except with a lot more enviroment effects that can make-or-break a team. Only a true team can overcome both the enviroments AND another team. For example, the arenas will be larger to accomodate for the enviroment effects (go by something, and it triggers a trap that could daze and blind everybody...no matter friend or foe), and there could be everlasting effects (-1 energy regeneration, enchantments last 25% shorter, all healing reduced by 10%, etc.) There could be a special prize after your 10th straight victory...like a chance to fight something colossal that will give everybody a huge faction reward if defeated. It'll have a difficulty similar to Glint though...but if you can go 10 rounds in such a hellish arena, you have a chance. It could be something similar to Abbadon, or something utterly different. I understand you'll only have 4 people to fight it...but a good team can defeat this beast/spirit/whatever.

Once you get to Balthazar's Chosen, you can work for a new emote of Balthazar or a title or something. Also, you could work for the exclusive PVP armor...which makes getting the map pieces seem fast and easy.

There...something truly rewarding that will satisfy PVPers for probably months or a year to come.

/signed

tomcruisejr · Feb 16, 2007, 04:39 AM // 04:39

We should also be able to convert Balthazar factions to gold and to use Balthazar factions to buy fame/glad/champ points.

Wretchman Drake · Feb 16, 2007, 04:45 AM // 04:45

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Originally Posted by tomcruisejr

We should also be able to convert Balthazar factions to gold and to use Balthazar factions to buy fame/glad/champ points.

1.) That would ruin the economy in so many ways.
2.) You shouldn't buy your way through literal fame. Earn it.

Master Ketsu · Feb 16, 2007, 08:25 AM // 08:25

Ive seen ideas like this before, and /notsigned. But here I will /sign.

The fact is that due to the new faction cap being improvable with hero and glad ranks, really any PvPer that can get obsidian would have done just as much work as a Pve'r. I like the idea of making it cost so much faction that you have to have raised your cap, that makes it so there will still only be so many people running around with it. The old problem where 15k/obsidian/ect would be cheapafied is somewhat fixed.

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Originally Posted by tomcruisejr

We should also be able to convert Balthazar factions to gold and to use Balthazar factions to buy fame/glad/champ points.

Joke ??? /notsigned. Obviously....

Tony The Awesome · Feb 16, 2007, 08:42 AM // 08:42

/notsigned
This will be the death of PvE. Why Play against each other with a PvE character if the PvP has it all? I think PvP is about performance, not glamor. I Do like the alliance decorations, fireworks, etc. and even the gold item Idea, But PvP should no get everything a PvE gets, why get the full game then? Save the PvE.

Ung · Feb 16, 2007, 10:59 AM // 10:59

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Originally Posted by tomcruisejr

We should also be able to convert Balthazar factions to gold and to use Balthazar factions to buy fame/glad/champ points.

Oh. My. God. Ohhh........ Someone, pinch me.

.......

Alfrond · Feb 16, 2007, 06:27 PM // 18:27

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Originally Posted by Tony The Awesome

/notsigned
This will be the death of PvE. Why Play against each other with a PvE character if the PvP has it all? I think PvP is about performance, not glamor. I Do like the alliance decorations, fireworks, etc. and even the gold item Idea, But PvP should no get everything a PvE gets, why get the full game then? Save the PvE.

But surely you play PvE for reasons other than getting fancy armor and weapons.

King Kong Monkey · Feb 16, 2007, 06:46 PM // 18:46

/signed except by using armor skins that are used in PvE. Some new armor skins would be nice but if you a really cool one also add that skin in PvE. And NEVER make it possible to unlock Obsidian Armor in PvP!!! Add some armor skins that are nice but not better than prestige armor in PvE.

Chewbacca Defense · Feb 16, 2007, 07:50 PM // 19:50

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Originally Posted by tomcruisejr

We should also be able to convert Balthazar factions to gold and to use Balthazar factions to buy fame/glad/champ points.

LMAO! I can imagine all the leechers and bots in PvP now. Tons of people would enter AB/RA just for free Bath points. The bot farmers wouldn't even need complex scripts - just hit enter and hope that the other players play.

ThisIsNi · Feb 17, 2007, 04:30 AM // 04:30

/signed definatley

arzamond · Feb 17, 2007, 09:45 AM // 09:45

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Originally Posted by Alfrond

But surely you play PvE for reasons other than getting fancy armor and weapons.

ow... i play pve purely for nice armor and looks....
i won't play pve if i can unlock pve's feature with balth faction...

Patccmoi · Feb 17, 2007, 10:57 PM // 22:57

Didn't read it all but i agree with the idea overall.

I don't even see anything wrong with getting things like Obsidian Armor through Balth's Faction, as long as it's actually similar investment. For instance, say you make Obsidian Armor 50k Balt's Faction a piece. Most people don't even have that cap. To just reach that cap, you need to have a couple of titles earned first. Then you need 250k balt's faction for the full set, which is quite a lot. And that'd unlock 1 Obsidian Armor set for 1 class, if you want all sets then it's a damn lot of Balth's Faction. Only hardcore PvPers would have any chance to get it, just like only hardcore PvErs can get it. Don't tell me casual PvErs have any hope of getting an Obsidian set.

But they could also make a new high-end PvP armor that'd be the equivalent of Obsidian Armor but keeping them separate (one being the high-end PvE and the other high-end PvP, both exclusive), which would likely be even better.

But ya, i agree that some Balt's Faction sink would be interesting. Being UAX takes some fun away from PvP as you have nothing left to unlock (still some titles, but meh). I'm not playing PvP for titles or to unlock, but it still adds a little something to the game and it doesn't seem like it'd be hard to implement at all.

LifesRestorer · Feb 18, 2007, 05:29 AM // 05:29

havent really read this thread, but someone suggested once before of maybe bringing back bathazaar flames (1k faction in a bottle)

pvpers dont get much money as it is, so being able to transfer your current unused faction into a balthazaar flame to sell or even to give to someone for a skill unlock could be quite nice.

maybe 3k balth faction can be converted into 1 balth flame.

evilkingsky · Feb 18, 2007, 11:56 PM // 23:56

/signed for a new use for faction
/unsigned for 15k armor to pvp

Dobermann · Feb 25, 2007, 02:54 PM // 14:54

man i hate u... ur UaX

still gonna
/signed

kick ass idea

Ilithis Mithilander · Mar 12, 2007, 12:33 AM // 00:33

I like the title idea that came from this. Other than that, PvE armor should be unique amoung the pvp section of the game.